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"No credible evidence suggests that the
shots were fired from the railroad bridge over the Triple Underpass,
the nearby railroad yards or any place other than the Texas School
Book Depository Building."
--- Warren Commission Report Page 61

well... bullshit

I disagree, no credible evidence suggests that the multitude of shots came only from the Texas School Book Depository Building and to put forth such point by the Warren Commssion is instrumental in this Coups D'etat. It is treasonous.
--- Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars
and how can the Warren Commission be legitimate or credible if in the entire Warren Commission Report the words: 'silencer' nor 'suppressor' are never mentioned, we have had silencers since circa 1908, the dal-tex bldg is mentioned on one photo in the entire report i mean come on what clowns the warren commission is hired to run the circus by the prime beneficiary of the coups - lyndon baines johnson (who wanted to discourage any talk of conspiracy and so thrust his own conspiracy theory out there for us all to digest)

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    medical evidence/testimony

    the doctors at parkland report throat front entry wound and head front entry wound


    The throat wound was made by the first of the two (or possibly more) bullets that struck Kennedy. It was not the fatal wound.

    The physicians who performed the autopsy did not see this wound in its original state, because it was obliterated by one of the Parkland doctors, Dr. Malcolm Perry, when he made a surgical incision over it in order to perform a tracheotomy. Therefore, only the doctors and nurses at Parkland hospital had a view of this wound in its original state.

    All of the Parkland doctors and the nurse who offered an opinion on the throat wound characterized it as an entrance wound.

    It is also important to note that the “single bullet theory” depends upon the throat wound being an exit wound. That is because the “single bullet theory” alleges that a single bullet hit Kennedy in the back, exited the front of his neck, and then continued on to hit Governor John Connally (sitting in the front seat of the car, in front of Kennedy) in the back, wrist and leg.

    Characterization as an entrance wound by the Parkland doctors

    Here are the descriptions of the throat wound by the doctors and one nurse at Parkland hospital:

    Dr. Malcolm Perry
    Lifton describes the initial news accounts of the opinions of the Parkland doctors, particularly Dr. Malcolm Perry:

    On November 22, 1963, millions of Americans heard radio and TV networks report that Dr. Malcolm Perry, a Dallas Physician who was with the President in the emergency room when he died, said there was a bullet entrance wound situated on the front of Kennedy’s neck.

    Because Perry later changed his mind about the direction of the bullet, after receiving a visit from the Secret Service, and denied what he had originally said, Lifton goes to much effort to document Perry’s initial accounts. Here is some of that documentation:

    UPI report at 3:10 p.m. CST on 11-22 (1):

    Dr. Malcolm Perry, thirty-four, said “there was an entrance wound below the Adam’s apple.”

    Tom Wicker with the New York Times (2):

    Dr. Malcolm Perry, an attending surgeon, and Dr. Kemp Clark, chief of neurosurgery at Parkland Hospital, gave more details. Mr. Kennedy was hit by a bullet in the throat, just below the Adam’s apple, they said. This wound had the appearance of a bullet’s entry

    Dallas News reporter John Geddie (3):

    Dr. Perry said, “in the lower portion of Kennedy’s neck, right in the front, there was a small puncture.”

    Lifton explains why he felt confidant that Perry had not been misquoted, as he later claimed:

    Another factor reinforcing my conviction that Dr. Perry had not been misquoted was his reaction to the news that the shots were all fired from a building located behind the motorcade. Faced with that fact, Dr. Perry did not change his opinion about the wound; on the contrary, he simply assumed that President Kennedy was turned toward the rear when the bullet struck… He told the Boston Globe’s medical editor, Herbert Black (4):

    “It may have been that the President was looking up or sideways with his head thrown back when the bullet or bullets struck him”.

    However, we know from the Zapruder film that the President’s head was in fact facing forward when the fatal bullet struck his head.

    Dr. Ronald Jones
    In his Warren Commission deposition, Dr. Jones explained why the doctors considered the throat wound to be an entrance wound:

    The hole was very small and relatively clean-cut as you would see in a bullet that is entering rather than exiting from a patient. (5)

    Many of the doctors initially thought that the throat and head wound were caused by the same bullet, entering through the throat and exiting through the back of the head. Dr. Jones explained to the Warren Commission his initial thoughts:

    With no history as to the number of times that the President had been shot or knowing the direction from which he had been shot, and seeing the wound in the midline of the neck (which Jones characterized as an entrance wound in his medical report) and what appeared to be an exit wound in the posterior portion of the skull, the only speculation that I could have as … to how this could occur with a single wound (bullet) would be that it would enter the anterior neck and possibly strike a vertebral body and then change its course and exit in the region of the posterior portion of the head… if I accounted for it (both wounds) on the basis of one shot, that would have been the way I (would have) accounted for it. (6)

    Dr. Paul Peters
    Dr. Peters testified at the Warren Commission Hearings (7):

    We saw the wound of entry in the throat and noted the large occipital wound, and it is a known fact that high velocity missiles often have a small wound of entrance and a large wound of exit…

    Dr. Charles Baxter
    Lifton notes that despite Arlen Specter’s aggressive efforts to get the Parkland physicians to equivocate on their characterization of the throat wound, some of them argued back against him. Dr. Baxter, for example, noted that such a wound (to have been an exit wound) would be “unusual… ordinarily there would have been a rather large wound of exit.” (8)

    Dr. Charles Carrico
    On the afternoon of November 22, Dr. Charles Carrico described the throat wound in his medical report as “a small penetrating wound of the ant. (front) neck in the lower 1/3”. (9)

    Nurse Margaret Henchliffe
    Margarette Hencliffe testified to the Warren Commission (10):

    It was just a little hole in the middle of his neck… about as big around as the end of my little finger… that looked like an entrance bullet hole

    Lifton describes Ms. Henchliffe’s exchange with Arlen Specter:

    When asked by Specter if it could “have been an exit bullet hole,” Nurse Henchliffe insisted that she had “never seen an exit bullet hole… that looked like that… It was just a small wound and wasn’t jagged like most of the exit bullet wounds that I have seen…”

    Immediately following this exchange, attorney Specter began a series of questions designed to establish that Nurse Henchliffe did not have qualifications to render such an opinion. Nurse Henchliffe answered that her experience was limited to five years in the ER at Parkland Memorial Hospital and, more generally, her twelve years as a registered nurse. “We take care of a lot of bullet wounds down there – I don’t know how many a year,” she testified (11).

    Dr. Robert McClelland
    Lifton describes Dr. McClelland’s interview with Richard Dudman of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (12):

    Dr. McClelland told the Post-Dispatch: “It certainly did look like an entrance wound.” He explained that a bullet from a low velocity rifle, like the one thought to have been used, characteristically makes a small entrance wound, sets up shock waves inside the body, and tears a big opening when it passes out the other side.

    Dr. McClelland conceded that it was possible that the throat wound marked the exit of a bullet fired into the back of the President’s neck… “but we are familiar with bullet wounds,” he said. “We see them every day – sometimes several a day. This did appear to be an entrance wound.”

    McClelland noted in the same interview, having been informed that Lee Harvey Oswald had shot the President from behind:

    We postulated that if it was a wound of entry, as we thought it was… he would have to have been looking almost completely to the rear.

    And McClelland testified to similar effect to the Warren Commission (13):

    At the moment… it was our impression before we had any other information… that this was one bullet, that perhaps had entered through the front of the neck and then in some peculiar fashion which we really had… to strain to explain to ourselves, had coursed up the front of the vertebra and into the base of the skull and out the rear of the skull.

    Dr. Robert Shaw
    Dr. Shaw said that the doctors were “a little baffled” by the throat wound (14):

    The assassin was behind him, yet the bullet entered at the front of his neck. Mr. Kennedy must have turned to his left to talk to Mrs. Kennedy or to wave to someone.

    1) UPI “A” wire, 11-22-63, 3:10 p.m. CST
    2) New York Times, 11-23-63
    3) Dallas Morning News, 11-24-63, page 11
    4) Boston Globe, 11-24-63, page 9
    5) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 56
    6) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 55
    7) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 71
    8) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 42
    9) Warren Commission Report, page 519
    10) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 141
    11) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 141
    12) St. Louis Post Dispatch, 12-1-63, page 16
    13) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 37
    14) Houston Post, 11-29-63

    Apparent efforts to obscure the testimony of the Parkland doctors on the throat wound

    Many people have pointed out that differentiating between an exit and an entrance wound is not an exact science, and that therefore the doctors at Parkland Hospital could have been wrong about Kennedy’s throat wound. That is a possibility. But weighing against that possibility is the fact that this particular wound was very highly characteristic of an entrance wound and that all of the doctors and the nurse who initially ventured an opinion on it had a similar opinion.

    It is also important to note how various entities endeavored to … shall we say, sweep this evidence under the rug:

    “Secret Service Gets Revision of Kennedy Wound”
    On December 18th, a story by Richard Dudman appeared in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, titled “Secret Service gets revision on Kennedy wound – After visit by agents, doctors say shot was from rear”. The doctors referred to in the article were Malcolm Perry and Robert McClelland. Here is an excerpt from the article:

    Two Secret Service agents called last week on Dallas surgeons who attended President John F. Kennedy and obtained a reversal of their original view that the bullet in his neck entered from the front. The investigators did so by showing the surgeons a document described as an autopsy report from the US Naval Hospital at Bethesda. The surgeons changed their original view to conform with the report they were shown.

    This article begs two questions in my mind. First, why would Secret Service agents feel the need to visit doctors in an attempt to get them to change their views? And second, how would the autopsy report change the views of the two doctors on the characterization of the throat wound, given that the throat wound was not seen by the autopsy doctors, having been obliterated by the tracheotomy that Dr. Perry performed?

    Lifton summarized the change in Dr. Perry’s story by the time he testified before the Warren Commission:

    By the time Dr. Perry testified before the Warren Commission his attitude had changed markedly. Although he was still describing the throat wound, anatomically, as a small pencil-size hole, just a quarter inch in diameter, Perry no longer maintained it was a wound of entry. “It could have been either” he said. And he apparently subscribed to the theory that he had been misquoted at the news conference.

    The Warren Commission ignoring the initial characterization of the throat wound
    One would think, given the fact that Dr. Perry’s opinions in his initial, widely broadcast news conference contradicted his later statements to the press, as well as his Warren Commission testimony, that the Warren Commission might have said something about this or at least preserved the records of Dr. Perry’s press conference in their hearings. But they did no such thing. Lifton comments on this oversight:

    The twenty-six volumes (of Warren Commission Hearings) presented a strange appearance. Numerous transcripts of news conferences held at Police Headquarters were published, made from audio and videotapes obtained from the three major networks and their Dallas affiliates, but Dr. Perry’s news conference was not among them.

    Arlen Specter’s aggressive attempts to negate the evidence for an entry wound into the throat
    Lifton explains how Arlen Specter tried to get each medical witness to the throat wound to acknowledge that that wound was or could have been an exit wound – with the use of ridiculous hypothetical questions:

    Specter asked each doctor a long hypothetical question, beginning with the phrase, “Permit me to add some facts which I shall ask you to assume as being true”… Typical was the question he asked of Dr. Carrico, which began (15):

    Permit me to add some facts which I shall ask you to assume as being true for purposes of having you express an opinion. First of all, assume that the President was struck… when (he) was approximately 160 to 250 feet from the weapon (Oswald’s range)… being struck from the rear at a downward angle… on the upper right posterior thorax (the Bethesda entry wound)… Assume further that the missile passed through the body of the President striking no bones, traversing the neck and sliding between the large muscles (the Bethesda autopsy trajectory)… then exiting precisely at the point where you observed the puncture wound to exist (the Bethesda exit wound, at the location the Dallas doctors thought there was a wound of entry). Now based on those facts was the appearance of the wound in your opinion consistent with being an exit wound?

    Dr. Carrico replied: “With those facts and the fact as I understand it no other bullet was found, this would be… I believe… an exit wound”.

    However, not all the Parkland doctors were that docile. The one that did the most damage to Specter’s plan was Ronald Jones. Recall that the “single bullet theory”, which posited a single bullet for Kennedy’s throat wound and Governor Connally’s wounds, depended upon the bullet not only exiting Kennedy’s throat, but doing so with enough velocity to cause a good deal of damage to Connally. Lifton explains the damage that Jones did to Specter’s theories:

    Dr. Jones explained that at that speed, much faster than sound, the missile has a shock wave and, passing through Kennedy’s neck, it might wobble, and therefore it would cause a larger wound of exit than the small pencil-size hole the Dallas doctors had seen. Dr. Jones explained that Specter could have his tiny exit wound, or his high-velocity missile, but not both (16). Specter seemed to resist:

    Specter: Would it (the wound) be consistent, then, with an exit wound but of low velocity, as you put it?

    Jones: Yes; of very low velocity to the point that you might think that this bullet barely made it through the soft tissues that and had just enough velocity to drop out of the skin on the opposite side (17).

    Of course, such a missile posed no threat to the welfare of Governor Connally, and Dr. Jones’ testimony was not discussed in the Warren Report.

    15) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 3, page 362
    16) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 55
    17) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 55


    Both the Parkland doctors and the autopsy doctors considered the fatal head wound to be an exit wound. However, there were huge disparities in how the wound was characterized by the Parkland doctors compared to the autopsy doctors in Bethesda, and these disparities were of critical importance in determining whether the bullet came from in front of (as clearly indicated by the Parkland doctors’ description) or behind (as was consistent with the autopsy doctors’ description) the President. So vast were these disparities that it is virtually impossible to imagine that the two groups of doctors were looking at the same body.

    Recognizing the vast discrepancies between the opinions and findings of the Parkland Hospital physicians vs. the autopsy findings, the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) final report in 1979 concluded that either the Parkland doctors were mistaken or else the Secret Service was mistaken in their contention that the body arrived at the autopsy room unaltered. It then sided with the Secret Service, saying that they could not have been mistaken in their assertion that the body was not altered prior to autopsy, because the coffin with the body in it was under their constant observation from the time it left Parkland hospital until it arrived at the autopsy room. In other words, the HSCA did not seriously consider the possibility that the Secret Service participated in the cover-up. I’ll deal with that in my next post on this subject, which discusses evidence that the body was indeed altered substantially prior to the autopsy. For now I’ll just point out some of the major differences between the Parkland doctors’ accounts and the autopsy report:

    Characterization of the head wound as an “exit” wound at the back of the head by the Parkland doctors

    Dr. Robert McClelland
    Dr. McClelland provided the most extensive description of the head wound. He testified before the Warren Commission:

    I was in such a position that I could very closely examine the head wound… and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered, apparently by the force of the shot, so that the parietal bone was protruded up through the scalp and seemed to be fractured along its right posterior half, as well as some of the occipital bone being fractured in its lateral half, and this sprung open the bones… in such a way that you could actually look down into the skull cavity (18).

    Because Dr. McClelland recorded in his medical notes on the day of the assassination that “The cause of death was due to massive head and brain injury from a gunshot wound of the left temple” (19), that would clearly make the wound at the “right posterior portion of the skull” an exit wound

    Dr. Paul Peters
    Dr. Peters said in an interview with Lifton:

    I was trying to think how he could have had a hole in his neck and a hole in the occiput, and the only answer we could think of was perhaps the bullet had gone in through the front, hit the bony spinal column, and exited through the back of the head, since a wound of exit is always bigger than a wound of entry.

    Dr. Malcolm Perry
    Dr. Perry was quoted in the Dallas Morning News (20): “The head wound, Perry added, appeared to be an exit wound caused when the bullet passed out.” And in an interview with the Boston Globe (21), Perry described the wound in the back of the head as an exit wound, even though he had had heard by that time that the president was shot from behind:

    Perry acknowledged it was peculiar that “rather than entering” from behind, the bullet exited “despite the fact the assassin shot from above down on to the President.” But he assured Black that the wound he saw on the head was an exit: “We know that the big damage is at the point of exit.” He offered this explanation” “It may have been that the President was looking up or sideways with his head thrown back when the bullet or bullets struck him.

    Other Parkland doctors’ testimony on the nature of the back of the head wound
    Dr. Ronald Jones: “… appeared to be an exit wound in the posterior portion of the skull”. (22)

    Dr. Gene Akin: “I assume that the right occipitoparietal region was the exit”. (23)

    Dr. Marion Jenkins: “I would interpret it being a wound of exit” (24)

    Dr. Kemp Clark: Of the 7 Parkland physicians who characterized the nature of the fatal head wound (exit vs. entrance), only one equivocated (the other 6 characterizing it as an exit wound.) Dr. Kemp Clark said it could be an exit wound, but it was also possible the wound was “tangential” (25) – meaning that it did not enter the skull, but caused damage through contact. In that case, it could have come from either direction.

    18) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 33
    19) Warren Commission Report, page 527
    20) Dallas Morning News, 11-24-63
    21) Boston Globe, 11-24-63
    22) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 56
    23) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 67
    24) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 51
    25) St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 12-18-63, page 1

    Differences in the size and location of the wound between Parkland Hospital and Bethesda

    Lifton notes that both the Parkland doctors and the Bethesda doctors agreed on one thing. The “large” hole in the head was the exit wound for the fatal bullet. But the word “large” is just about the only thing they agreed on concerning this wound. The Parkland doctors placed the wound in the back or right back of the head. The Bethesda doctors described the wound as being about four times larger in area than the Parkland doctors. Therefore, though their report indicated the wound as extending to the back of the head, they also had it covering a much wider area. Because of the much wider area of the wound that the Bethesda doctors described, that exit wound might have been consistent with a bullet coming from the back and above. But the exit wound in the back of the head described by the Parkland doctors would not have been at all consistent with a shot from behind. Here is how Lifton described the autopsy report:

    There was a huge hole about six inches across in the top of the head. The hole extended all the way from the rear of the skull, in the occipital area, nearly six inches toward the front, and was completely uncovered. Dr. Humes said its largest dimension was “approximately 13 cm” (26)…. At the autopsy, Commander Boswell made a drawing of the skull which depicted the wound as a roughly rectangular area with measurement of 10 by 17 cm. Inside that area, Boswell had written “missing.” (27) At the rear of the head, just beneath the large hole, one inch to the right of the centerline, Commander Humes reported the existence of a small rectangular entry wound – 15 by 6 mm in size…

    That is not the way the President’s head appeared earlier that afternoon, at Parkland Memorial Hospital. None of the Dallas doctors saw the small “entry” wound subsequently reported by Commander Humes. More important, the only major wound noted by the Parkland doctors (28) – approximately 5 to 7 cm. in diameter – was located in the right rear portion of the head. The bones were sprung outward, and a flap of scalp was associated with the wound. The top of the President’s head was in place – it was not “missing.”

    More specifically, Lifton notes nurses Hutton (29) and Bowron (30) as describing a wound at the back of the head, and doctors Carrico (28), Jones (31), Akin (32), Perry (33), Peters (34), Clark (35), and Jenkins (36) as describing wounds at the back or back-right of the head. None of them described anything similar to the wound stipulated in the autopsy.

    Lifton summarizes why he believes that the body that the Bethesda autopsy doctors saw had to have been altered from its appearance at Parkland hospital:

    If the condition of the President’s head was the same at Parkland as at Bethesda, not only did the Parkland doctors miss a 13 cm hole in the top of the skull, they missed one which would have been obvious even upon cursory examination, since the scalp was gone too.

    26) Bethesda Autopsy Report, page 3
    27) Warren Commission Exhibit 397
    28) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 6
    29) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 21, page 216
    30) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 136
    31) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 54
    32) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 65
    33) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 11
    34) Warren Commission Hearings, Volume 6, page 71
    35) Transcript of 1327-C of Perry and Clark news conference
    36) Warren Commission Exhibit 392


    If the President’s throat wound was an entrance wound, as the doctors and nurses at Parkland Hospital unanimously (before two of them were later visited by Secret Service agents) claimed, then at least one bullet came from the front, in the general direction of the grassy knoll. Of course, it is possible that they were all wrong about that wound – which would have made it a very unusual exit wound. But if so, then as Dr. Jones explained to Arlen Specter, that would have meant that the velocity of the bullet as it exited the throat would have been so slow that it couldn’t possibly have continued on to do damage to Governor Connally, as concluded by the Warren Commission. Also of importance is the fact that the Bethesda autopsy doctors did not see the throat wound in its original state because it had been obliterated by a tracheotomy performed at Parkland Hospital.

    The Parkland doctors and nurses and the Bethesda doctors all agreed that the fatal head wound was an exit wound. But the wound that these two groups of doctors described was vastly different in size and location. If this fatal wound was an exit wound, as all agreed, the location of the wound at the back of the head described by the Parkland doctors would have meant that the bullet must have come from the front. But if the huge exit wound described by the autopsy doctors was correct, then it might have been consistent with a shot from the Texas School Book Depository, where the evidence placed Lee Harvey Oswald.

    Therefore, either the Parkland doctors were all hugely mistaken about the location of the fatal wound, or else the body was altered prior to the time that the autopsy doctors saw it in Bethesda. In my next post I’ll describe additional evidence that the body was in fact grossly altered prior to its arrival in the autopsy room.

    in my thinking there were four snipers, probably each had a spotter. if each of the four snipers fires two shots per position that makes about eight shots, lots of testimony that people heard about shots - a shot can be muffled or silenced, so anyway the roles of the snipers come in play here - i think one of the snipers - probably the using the mannlicher-carcano hit stationary targets: the street behind the limo, the curb, the concrete water drain on the south side of elm

    let us take up the hobos for a second - i will probably ease this later, and it again gets back to the roles the sniper teams play... ok recall the Hunt hobo, and then the other two -- the one with the flat nose is the the one i refer to because of his role,, say if the mission objective was to have Hunt with expert timing throw the firecracker which produced the puff of smoke i think the flat-nosed guy was there only for making sure tht Hunts part went off without a hitch,, so this gets back to what i am saying about the snipers/spotters team roles - and this is like at any club or bar or sporting event or crowded place - security,, guys on the elevators, guys in the stairwells, guys at the door -- so these are ancillary guys that handle security at dal-tex, that handle security in texas school book depository building, who handle security at the railyards,, not a lone assassin, but a handful per each of the four positions,,, that is all for now

    this page is a sort of resource for you to DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION,
    be your own reporter and dont trust any media nor government outlets of information (they love to deceive us),
    i have drawn my own conclusions and for me it is all summed up other than what went on in the Texas School Book Depository - this will require i look into the case a bit more,,, i want to point out the following page in which it is a whole lot of shooting in very little time for just the 1. dal-tex sniper 2. the railroad culvert sniper, to have been able to get that many shots in -- i do think some gunfire must hae come from the TSBD bldg as well -- let me show you the page to which i refer:

  • assessment / analysis

    i am not thinking of this study as being another conspiracy expose or theory, but to me this simply an assessment / analysis / critique of what went down in dealey plaza on that day 11-22-1963. So, it is an aside matter that there is/was the crime of conspiracy involved, i am not in charge of your belief, or what you believe. I think that people would like to hear what someone other than say Arlen Specter has to say on the subject - some fresh perspective would be nice, or even preferable. And i praise the effort of these new names i have found: this Jack White and this John Costella, the New Zealander with the handle: antdavisonNZ and the others - they are outstanding works i think. I am trying to use the term: "sniper" for someone who is criminally killing someone. And i am using the words: 'shooter' and 'marksman' and 'sharpshooter' to mean lawful/righteous firearms usage. I am not sure if others are going with this idea - but out there is a line so to speak across which no one is to cross without getting put into a different category. Be responsible and care about your fellow man is what i am saying.

    four snipers:

    i suspect that there were 4 (four) snipers,
    this has to do with the roles each of the four plays:
    1. rr sniper: very hard to do - high skill level - two front shots: throat and head, silenced semi auto
    2. dal-tex: easiest shot available, jfk moves in the scope a whole lot less for dal-tex, the sniper lines up on 2nd floor behind the president and doesn't have to track back and forth horizontally nor much up and down vertically for the hit - back shot, silenced semi auto
    3. tsbd east window - for utility [probably the mannlicher-carcano], light duty but loud, to hit stationary targets [street, curb, drain] with the only rifle which was not silenced (
    4. tsbd, the heavy, [in an elevated windows somewhat farther to the west], difficult shot and moving in both horizontal and vertical in the scope - this was for real sniping from other windows of the tsbd,, i dont know where, this was for shooting down into the basin of the limo from elevated position, silenced semi auto ---- check me on this one: was the mauser fitted for a silencer in other words was the threading on the end of the barrel, if not then the mauser doesn't fit into the picture

    the shots:

    this is not a complete list, just trying to keep it all [organized]
    1. tsbd 6th floor - the testimony of numerous eye-ear witnesses was the first shot hit the pavement (asphalt) behind the limo
    and in no particular order:
    2. rr sniper throat shot, front
    3. tsbd 6th floor curb chip shot
    4. tsbd 6th floor south water drain shot
    5. tague shot 4. and 5. maybe the same thing
    6. dal-tex sniper back shot
    7. tsbd 6th floor connally ribs (requires elevation)
    8. dal-tex windshield shot
    9. tsbd 6th floor conally wrist/leg (hard to say) (requires elevation)
    10. dal-tex above the mirror
    11. rr sniper head shot, front

    my thinking incorporates silencers and semi-auto rifles, where there is not the tight time constraint for 3 shot window of cycling the bolt-action --- loud attn attracting tsbd and quiet elsewhere

    anyway: 3 shots my ass

    the railroad culvert sniper:

    this takes some special consideration due to the absence of any real investigation by the WC Warren Commission (US Government, such that it is) on this point, so i mean to make some notes here, the map even by the HSCA shows how exactly the WC wants to put blinders on as to the reality of the hit. Let me take a moment and try and locate that map... ok this one will do for now: HSCA Topographic Survey which takes about one quadrant of th necessary study and zooms in from the mapmakers point of view to exclude some very vital points to the scene. It is just irresponsible to me of the Warren Commission and the successors - what is it 1981, anyway for anytime the government gets involved with this story or narrative - they always leave out the big chunk of the story to divert attention. It is plainly irritating..

    but to get back on track, and stay on track the railroad triple underpass has a great deal to do with this assassination. The railroad sniper and spotter team lined up on the triple underpass in very specific positions. Why Oliver Stone's "JFK" and also David Miller's "Executive Action" missed this is a little beyond belief. The position had the highground and was tactically superior to any other position in Dealey Plaza. The position also had some seclusion and concealment available for the sniper - requiring a flap of cardboard or some such gilly/camofiage operation to the hit. For the spotter the position allowed him to hide in plain sight, blatantly. As Lee Bowers put it that was a "strategic corner," i will be so bold as to correct Bowers and say it was a 'tactical corner.' I am referring of course basically to the railroad triple underpass at the northeast end abutment and fence combo before it turns that corner and becomes the stockyard fence which holds the parking area in Dealey Plaza. The position offered a tunnel 18 inches wide wherein the sniper could first shoot, then go-to-ground and hide with his railroad detective spotter about 21 feet away from each other but communicating with the same type of ear piece/radio that the Secret Service uses. Obviously not tuned to Alpha, Baker, or Charlie frequency. I think the Sniper/Spotter had code of course i have no proof this, it just makes sense to me. So the sniper shoots and closes the picket flap, gets down in the tunnel and waits while his spotter who stays put and is smart enough to know to not run away - that is what everyone was looking for was somebody fleeing the scene. So the spotter held his ground (the railroad's turf) and his other hat was Railroad Detective. And he was speaking to security on the radio as well, with little coded bits of info to calm the sniper who was then hiding in the tunnel. Probably on a different frequency. The spotter told the sniper that, you know, here come the people, and the sniper could hear them up above. Some people have suggested following the tunnel down to the steet, under the centerline of the street, and doing like the water does and flows and empties out into the west in the trinity river basin. Well that's one way. If the sniper wants he can head to the east (uphill towards Houston Street and Dallas in general). If i recall correctly the tunnel underneath elm is something like 24 inches. But my point is that there is no need nor call to travel through the tunnels. Just hiding for a while is sufficient. The Dallas Police arrested Oswald something like 1:30 pm at the Texas Theater, and as far as they were concerend they had gotten their man. No one was looking for the railroad sniper, as of an hour later. Or at all. If i recall correctly the shots occurred about 12:30.

    It shoul br pointed out that the motorcycle officer that laid his bike down at the curb on Elm at the curb water drain was not one of the four mc cops which rode along with the limo. The officer's name was Clyde Haygood. Haygood was well back from the limo in the motorcade. Haygood testified words to the effect that he was in the turn off of Main Street onto Houston street when he heard the shots, so he kept going forward on houston, turned on to Elm Street, rode down with the pergola [and zapruder?] to his right, stopped his mc by the curb drain, got off then ran up the grassy knoll embankment and up into tht strategic corner and climbed that fence. That took time. By the time Haygood was standing on the abutment which touches the short fence(s) the sniper was already in the tunnel. Nervous i am sure. I wonder if when he came back up he brought his rifle with him or is it still wedged into the tunnel. It seems that they would have obscured the strategic corner from line-of-sight from Lee Bowers. With a pick-up truck with camper or a car or something. I think that the railroad employees - black folk now who get ignored in any testimonies as far as i can tell - are from the two passenger trains some 215 feet from where they stood in the Cabluck photo. These were railroad employees as was everyone on the (overpass) except law enforcement. The gentleman to the north is easiest to recognize/identify. He is a train steward, in fine suit, who has in his hand a feather duster. The southernmost gentleman looks like a cook with a shirt that looks like a cook shirt. The middle gentleman looks to be maybe kitchen or baggage - it is hard to guess for me. I canot find any of these railworkers, nor more than a passing mention of the Railway Detective in any of the literature so far which is suspicious in itself. In terms of position these three railroad workers act as a buffer or blocker from anyone coming from the south to distract the railroad detective spotter while he is trying to take care of this other item. There is another railroad worker in distinctive white railroad hat heading north behind the middle person. Holland doesnt seem to mention the four humans between himself and the corner, and btw look at hwo slow Holland "immediately" went running around the corner into the parking area in the Cabluck photo. This is maybe 3 or 4 minutes after the shots.

    i should also say that it is likely that the orders were to not injure the womenfolk in the limo. I think this is why there is zero evidence that a shot came from the zapruder area nor the parking area. This is a texas thing. Civilized men do not beat up pr unintentionally shoot women. If the order was to kill anyone and evryone in the limo the attackers could have hit with grenades or shoulder fired bazookas, and burn the limo to a charred crisp and everyone in it with it. But the point is they didnt. The orders must have been to hit Kennedy and hit no other. I think Connally must have been collateral. Incidental. Notice none of the Secret Service was eliminated either. Those were not the objective of the hit. I heard Morningstar say he believes that a dude just slightly west of zapruder was firing a M18 on 3 shot burst. Well what evidence is there that shot took place. The muzzle always rises a bit in a 3 shot burst, how did Jackie avoid getting hit nor any dents or any damage laterally or from the sides of the car. So i disagree. This is why the TSBD as well as the parking lot area were used as attention distractions/diversions. Let us say the cia-hobos were in charge of the firecracker well timed and the bottle smashing well timed, which brought everyone's attention to that place behind the fence where everyone ran (stampeded behind the stockyard fence) and there was no one with no rifles to be found. This took attention away from dal-tex sniper and took attention away from the railroad culvert sniper who did not need long to cover their tracks. They had practiced their procedures hundreds of times. It took them seconds whereas it took Haygood minutes to get to the scene. Everyone was expecting a runner with rifle which no one saw. Why. In the case of strategic corner railroad culvert the sniper had gone to ground. No one saw him.

    If i dont have the blueprint copies obtained at the Dallas Public Works circa 1984 which repeat what i am saying about the tunnel being 18" in diameter, that really doesnt matter. The point is that here was a hiding place (cover, concealment, defilade) big enough to hide an adult male in this position of the railroad culvert, our president was killed from this position, and the teams of investigators simply passover any consideration of this railroad culvert sniper position (negligent investigation). Apparently the investigative teams have given the railroad dick a pass as well as failed to take down the testimonies of the 3 black people (railroad workers). I can't find anywhere where the railroad detective spotter is ever even named - which speaks of the excellence or lack thereof regarding our "investigative" teams like FBI or Dallas Police or the Railroad Investigation or Secret Service, nor Army Intelligence. John F. Kennedy could have fit into this tunnel. Lee Harvey Oswald could have fit into this tunnel.


  • DWF of dealey plaza
  • DWG of drawing of dealey plaza
  • images
  • links
  • moving film and stills

    antdavisonNZ, Leche, Patsy Paschall, Elsie Dorman, Hugh Betzner, Philip Willis, Tina Towner, Jack Martin, Charles Bronson, George Jefferies, Jack Daniel, James Darnell, Harry Cabluck, Wilma Bond, Jay Skaggs, Mary Morman, Robert Hughes, Babushka Lady (Bev Oliver), Orville Nix, Marie Muchmore, Mark Bell, Abraham Zapruder

    Atkins, Ike Altgens, Couch, Stoughton, Wiegman, Craven, Cancellare, Dillard, Underwood

  • subterfuge

    1. reconstructive surgery on the president prior to an autopsy (LBJ)
    2. repair of limo prior to any forensic investigation (LBJ)
    3. moving the road signs in dealey plaza (LBJ)
    4. sawing away the curb with ricochet furrow (Dallas Police)
    5. the number of railroad culverts changed (shell and pea game) LBJ

  • some of my background

    i have been a draftsman ever since i was a boy, starting out (modern architecture) with T-square and triangles pencils and rulers. I worked professionally for a brief time for the Globe Life Insurance Company in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma as a draftsman with my own office. This was in the Globe Life building downtown with the other tall building was the bank across the street. From the old days you might recall driving through OKC and looking to see what time it was on the big time sign - that was Globe Life. I havent been there lately but the intent was to remove the time sign. I graduated high school from the Arts Magnet High School at Booker T. Washington. which has now apparently moved a bit. I graduated in 1983. I then for a while i would say less than a year worked as my sole occupation on the Kennedy assassination, before i went to OKC. It paid the rent, and i was working for a lawyer who rented me a garage apartment and he was also my landlord. He is a good man and i refrain from identifying him or myself. He had represented my family in previous matters of law as well, and (lmao) he has a lot of my artwork sculpture and paintings drawings and whatnot. On the internet i prefer to go by my Native American name: Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars. I was named in the summer between my fourth and fifth grades by Medicine Chief Roger Bacon of Isleta (Belen, New Mexico).

    i investigated for many months - probably 6 to 9 months is my estimate in about 1984. I lived one street to the west of Swiss Avenue in Dallas, Texas. I can look it up and rediscover the street address but let me just go on. In my investigation for myself and for my lawyer, i did a lot of reading and a lot of onsite at Dealey Plaza. This was decades before i ever saw the Zapruder film in moving pictures and i did have the LIFE magazine article. Trying to recall. So i discovered the railroad tracks area water culvert up behind the railroad triple underpass abutment fence, and this became the focus of my research/investigation. I called up the Dallas Public Works and i asked to come down there to their office. It was huge and they have a library of info in architectural/engineering sliding tray drawer cabinets. I was told i had to contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation and get clearance from them or the DPW would not be able to show me anything. And i did so. If memory serves here i made out a letter which i believe was handwritten before a notary public saying who i was and who i was working for and the reason i was investigating the culvert on the railorad triple underpass at Dealey Plaza. The FBI promptly got a letter back to me and i took it down to the DPW after setting up another appointment. The process went on for a couple of hours and these older engineer types spent time first on the 1964 redo drawings of DP, and after that they concentrated on the 1930's construction drawings of the culvert and underground tunnels and pipes and water run-off systems. I got basically 3 or 4 prized drawings, which i have not yet relocated it will take some time to find the drawings if i am able to at all:

    1. two top views from the 1930s
    2. one elevation 1930s
    3. one more zoomed out top view 1930s which showed the culvert tunnel tying in with the Elm Street run-off that eventually feeds into the Trinity river

    as time allows i will search through my papers and if i do find the drawings (blueprints) i will scan them and upload to this page/folder

    i started at the University of North Texas (at the time it was named North Texas State University) 7 years after i graduated high school. I attended 4 semesters per year for 8 years. I earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree and came a few credits short of earning a Master's Degree, but i stopped school do to money problems. I had a debilitating stroke November 28, 1989. I started at Universtity January 6, 1990 and through 1998. I write this to give some background as to the question which always arises: "Well who are you anyhow?" I am an artist. I am a craftsman. I am a draftsman. I am a marksman. I am a woodsman. I am a motorcyclist. I am a father and now a grandfather, (i am no longer a husband have been married way too many times), I am disabled. I am a patriot. I am a potter. I am a rock and roller. I am a sculptor. I am a figure drawer. I am an AutoCAD drafter nowdays. I am a Republican after having been a Democrat. I tried to enlist in the service first as a MARINE, then the ARMY, then i tried the Central Intelligence Agency, then the Federal Bureau of Investigation, then the Dallas Police, and then the Dallas Fire Departmet - i was turned down. I was born with a congenital heart defect, that was a hole between the two ventricals in the septum, i had open heart surgery in 1987 to mend the hole, in which they (cardiology at baylor) removed my pericardium after telling me that they would simply cut through - so i have a circumcised heart - what a riot. After 9-11 i tried again to enlist first with the NAVY and then with the ARMY. I was turned down. Again. In a way i have a good heart and in a way i have a weak heart. If you will recall in the movie "A Few Good Men" when Lance Cpl. Harold W. Dawson tells Pfc. Louden Downey that "We were supposed to fight for people who couldn't fight for themselves. We were supposed to fight for Willy" i am in the role of Willy by analogy - that is i could not keep up with the platoon in real life.

    too much history here - the point is i am a real person and i really did investigate the Kennedy assassination in the mid 1980's and this is not some fictional thing (even though i still have yet to find the blueprints from the Dallas Public Works) i have clues about where the documents/drawings/prints might be and i just have to see about that as time unfolds...

    before too long i will get some graphics (maps) uploaded to this page/folder which people may use to facilitate in their hunt for the truth about Novermber 22, 1963 and not have to go through all the steps of creating their own maps - i give this one out free of charge. You betcha..